• OK, I think I've wrapped my head around this:

    In this new time, with more hours per day, and fewer minutes per hour, the relationship between hours and minutes are the same (60-60, 50-50). So, new hours are shorter, and new minutes are longer, so new seconds are longer. If new seconds are longer, then the measurement of old seconds will be represented by a smaller number. If indeed the old record was 9.78 seconds, it's equivalent in new time will be 7.09 seconds.

    Or, I could be wrong. :D


    (heehee, I cheated :D )
  • Good thinking WB (extra cred for figuring out what the problem was about) although you didn't get it quite right.
    Yes, the new second are longer. So work out how much longer and then divide the 9.78 "old sec" with the number you got for the "new sec".

    First one to get the correct number wins a bottle of tripple sec. :D
  • According to my figs:

    25 new hours in a day, at 50 new minutes per hr. = 24hrs@60mins per hr.
    1250 new minutes, at 50 new seconds per min. = 1440mins@60secs per min.
    62500 new seconds in a day = 86400 old seconds in a day
    1 new second = 1.38 old seconds

    So, a record at 9.78 old seconds is equivalent to 7.09 new seconds.



    ps. Keep the triple sec. Cheers!
  • Gee, I'm glad you posted your calculations WB, they are correct exept for 86400/62500 = not 1.38 but 1.3824. You made a simple rounding up misstake and lost 2/100 seconds on the record... :( The A+ answer should be 7.07 sec.
    But since you are wise enough to figure the problem out I'm gonna let you pass with honors.
    :D
    Pick up your diploma at the front desk.

    So, got any new teaser WB?
  • As the record was rounded off at the nearest hundredth, it seemed the standard. I suppose one man's decision is another's mistake. As for the next one, It's coming soon. Should another member feel inclined to post a brainteaser before I return, feel free to do so, with my blessing. :P
  • Since you seem to be extraordinary slow this time of year WB I'll give you something to get those braincells of yours jumping.

    It takes my clock exactly 30 seconds to announce that the time is 6 o'clock.
    How long do you think it takes to strike 12?
  • Would that be Six hours & Thirty seconds?
  • How's about 59 seconds?? (don't ask, just guessing here) <_< </font>
  • Knowze: I don't know if your joking as usual or just plain stupid, I'd go for the later though :lol:
    Sus: No, 59 sec is not correct. You must now wait 3 days until you can guess again (but just as a hint, it would probably take longer since there is twice as many strokes ;) )
  • Just taking the question literally. Going by the logic that the hour strikes at
    the begining of the chime, not at the end. So if Six is to be announced in
    Thirty seconds then, logically, Twelve will be announced Six hours later.

    Now if you will excuse me, I have a tea party to get back to. Mr Teddy gets
    awfully cross when I take too long & the Banana twins will eat all the sugar
    cubes.
  • :P *ppppplllllffftttttt*!!!!! to you Manneman!!! I get to try again in fewer than 3 days' time if everyone else does!! Sheeeesh, talk about discrimination..... I'M GONNA COMPLAIN TO THE MANAGEMENT!! ( Oh wait, I am The Management!! ) :lol:

    I really thought that Mr. Gungk had it right, I follow his logic totally! (perhaps that makes me nuts too!??) But, since neither his answer nor my previous answer are correct, I'm gonna take a wild stab at:

    60 seconds!?!?

    :P
  • I know that these here brainteazers often come with a stupid twist but this one is purly mathematical. How long does it take for the clock to strike 12, that is from the millisecond the first stike of 12 starts until the last has ended. Simple as that.
    And Sus, you're still short. But since I've posted you may now go ahead and embaress yourself once more. :lol:
  • Ha-ha!

    - Nelson Muntz

    Oops! I thought this was the quote thread...... :D
  • Originally posted by manneman@Jan 10 2003, 09:54 AM
    I know that these here brainteazers often come with a stupid twist but this one is purly mathematical. How long does it take for the clock to strike 12, that is from the millisecond the first stike of 12 starts until the last has ended. Simple as that.
    And [b]Sus
    , you're still short. But since I've posted you may now go ahead and embaress yourself once more. :lol:[/b]

    Alright then, I will.........

    61 seconds?? :P :P :P
  • The clock will strike 12 in 30 seconds.

    In 30 seconds the minute hand will strike 12. ;)
  • Originally posted by Susan B STAFF@Jan 11 2003, 03:17 AM
    Alright then, I will.........

    [b]61 seconds??
    :P :P :P [/b]

    You're getting there, :lol: I guess stubborness will prevail in this one.

    And Rex, :huh: I'm sorry but I don't even know what you're talking about.

    Come on, it really isn't that hard.
    Here's a hint for you. Go out and buy an old clock. Set the clock so that it strkes 6 and time how long it takes. Then set the clock (or just whait 6 hours) to strike 12 and time how long that takes, divide the number of seconds it takes for the clock to strike 12 with the number of sec it takes to strike 6 and multiply by 30.
    Then you should have the accurate answer. ;)
  • What I meant by 30 seconds was that the minute hand (the hand on the clock that displays how many minutes it is past the hour, but you knew that) will strike 12 on the clock in 30 seconds.

    Just figured that it would be a trick question.
  • Aaaah, I see. But if that would be the case you still would be wrong, see the minute hand travels with a velocity of 1 lap/minute. So it would accually strike 12 in 59 minutes and 30 seconds :lol:
    That's a pretty clever answer however, but as I peviously stated the problem is pure math.
  • Wouldn't the minute hand travel 1 lap in 60 minutes?

    The second hand would travel 1 lap a minute.
  • Hey manneman, I got a question it might be stupid tho, but do we have to work the problems backwords?
  • Originally posted by Rex77@Jan 12 2003, 02:06 AM
    Wouldn't the minute hand travel 1 lap in 60 minutes?

    The second hand would travel 1 lap a minute.

    :huh: I guess were equally lost on this matter
    Damn digital watches :lol:

    Mikey No, there is not and backward working that I know of. The problem is finding out how long time one "inbetween DINGS or DONGS" will take and then calculating the amount of inbetweens in 6 and 12 strokes.
    I can't belive it's taking this long.
    Hint of the day: Sus will be getting the right answer in less then a week :lol:
  • Well, SCHMUCKHEAD, seeing as I have neither a DING nor a DONG, and not even a CUKOO, it may take longer than a week!! I have other clocks that arent' digital, but they don't make any noise, other than the quiet little "tic, tic, tic, tic"..... that doesn't help though!!


    Hey everyone, did you hear that, after Manneman whined and whined for it, they finally came out with a new Viagra in nasal spray form??

    IT'S FOR D!CKHEADS!!!!! :lol: :P
  • Why you little..... I get so upset that snot starts blowing out of my BIG nose
    :lol:
    and about that clock of yours, I would appreciate it if you kept your menopause problems to your self :P

    Hint of the year (if you don't get after this I don't know if I would trust you sharp objects)
    The answer is the same as you would get if satan were to lose one of his sexes!
    Oh, I forgot to tell you, you have to count in Swedish :lol:
  • Sexty Sex seconds!?!?!? (just going by your spelling, NUMBNUTS!!!) :P You've gotta be kidding me!?!?!? Well, time I go out and buy a grandfather clock just to make sure you're not fibbing!

    (keep your hands off my clock Buster, or I'll come after you with one of my flaming HOT FLASHES!!!!! :lol: )
    Manneman is toast!! :ph34r:
  • Yea, Sextiosex (66) seconds is right.
    Way to go Sus
    See you don't have to know math to be able to solve math problems.

    If anybody cares how the answers can be 66 sec:
    When striking 6 there is 5 pauses all together. Since the timeframe is 30 sec. you can say that every pause takes 6 seconds.
    At the strike of 12 there are 11 pauses....

    Now it's my turn to be dazzled, hit me Susan. :lol:
  • Thank you thank you!! However, considering the lateness of the hour, my brain is now shut down for the evening. Would someone else please kindly take over for me before my body explodes!? :ph34r:
  • Thank you :) I've been waiting for a while behind this here pillar ;)

    Imagine having a glas of gin and next to it a glas of tonic.
    The two glasses contain exacly the same amount of liquid and the liquids are not mixed with anything else.
    Now, take a teaspoon of gin and pour it down into the tonic glas.
    Stir the tonic up with the teaspoon of gin and take a teaspoon of the mixture and pour it back in the gin glas.
    Here's the question: Is there more gin in the tonic glas than there is tonic in the gin glas, or is it the other way around?


    And please, could we have a somewhat explaining answer before the wild guesses start dropping in! Thank you. ;)
  • Lets try a mathematical approach.

    If the glasses contain 2 teaspoons of liquid then you would take 1\2 of the gin and put it in the tonic glass.Then the tonic glass would hold 2\3 tonic and 1\3 gin.Then when you take half of that and put it in the Gin class you should get a mixture thats 2\4 gin and 2\4 tonic.

    So by that i guess that there is more tonic in the gin glass then there is gin in the tonic glass.
  • They each contain an equal amount from the opposite glass.

    By taking a teaspoon of tonic and adding it to the gin glass you would now have 3 teaspoons of a gin and tonic mixture, 1 teaspoon of gin and 2 teaspoons of tonic. Now by taking a teaspoon of that mixture you are removing a teaspoon of the mixture that contains 2/3 tonic and 1/3 gin. When you add it to the tonic glass which contains 1 teaspoon of tonic you now have 1 2/3 teaspoons of tonic and 1/3 teaspoons of gin.

    So the tonic glass contains 1 2/3 tonic and 1/3 gin.
    The gin glass contains 1 2/3 gin and 1/3 tonic.
  • theres more tonic in the gin glass than there is gin in the tonic glass.

    1: you get a spoon of gin, put in tonic glass

    2: stir, to create a mixture of tonic/gin

    3 take spoon of mix from tonic/gin lgass and put in to the gin glass.

    this gives some of the gin back to the gin glass and tackes some of the tonic from the tonic glass.

    They are not in equal measures UNLESS you take the spoon of each before you add the spoon of the other.


    I think.

    :ph34r:
  • Gee, ask a question about clocks and you don't get a reply in days, ask about spirits and there are 3 within an hour

    :lol: Gabe you solved the problem without realizing it and then you give the wrong aswer.
    Rex is right, there is as much gin in the toninc glas as it is tonic in the gin glas.

    Read Gabes reply in you have trouble understanding, it's brilliantly calculated until the last sentance.
    You see, it really doesn't matter HOW much of the other liquid you pour over into the other glas as long as you pour the same amount back.

    Take away Rex.
  • Thank you Manneman.

    Try this one on for size...

    Picture a bridge four kilometers long and strong enough to hold ten thousand kilograms, but no more. A loaded transport truck weighing exactly ten thousand kilograms drives onto the bridge. At the halfway point, a sparrow weighing 30 grams lands on the truck, yet the bridge doesn't collapse.

    How could this be?
  • The truck is longer then 2 kilometers and only a part of the truck is on the bridge or that the bridge holds ten thousand kilograms on one spot so the weight of the truck fans out and the bridge doesnt go crashbangboom.
  • I too would have to go for the "Long truck" option but also contribute by saying
    "The truck is transporting Helium or some other lighter tehn air gas :P "

    As an engineer I know that you do not built bridges that will crumble to pieces if the calculated weight is exeeded by 30 grams, but I doubt that that is the answer.
  • Ten tons isn't that heavy so if the truck was 2 Km long it would have to be
    as wide & as high as a matchbox. My guess would be, because the truck
    would have to have stoped for the sparrow to land on it and there is most
    likely a support in the centre of the bridge which will add a few tons worth of support.
  • Originally posted by Knowze Gungk@Jan 26 2003, 11:28 AM
    Ten tons isn't that heavy so if the truck was 2 Km long it would have to be
    as wide & as high as a matchbox. My guess would be, because the truck
    would have to have stoped for the sparrow to land on it and there is most
    likely a support in the centre of the bridge which will add a few tons worth of support.

    Not if the truck was made completely of aerogel.
  • How many trucks have you seen that are two klicks long? :blink: Try again.
  • Alright, I have come up with two solutions. One smart and one stupid.

    Since we're talking about a 4 km long bridge here i assume that it is slighly arced.
    Now as everybody knows weight is really the force of gravity between the masses of two bodies. (That's why Newton is the proper answer to Knowze's question about weight ;) ).
    Now, the further away you get from the surface of the earth the less you weigh, right !
    So the truck has to be 0.03 kg lighter when reaching the half way point due to the change of gravital force.

    OR

    The teamster stopped, a few meters before the bird landed, to take a wizz over the leadge of the bridge (a tradition carried on for generations) leaving his exactly 30 grams lighter then when he weight in with the truck.

    If none of these are right I'm gonna beat you with a stick.
    :lol:
  • Bring it on, my stick is bigger :P . Your on the right track though.
  • well i would say that the middle of the bridge is the strongest part ever made and what i'm trying to say is that is wount fall.(beacouse the center/halfway point is the strongest)
  • Originally posted by Rex77@Jan 26 2003, 02:16 AM
    [b]Picture a bridge four kilometers long and strong enough to hold ten thousand kilograms, but no more. A loaded transport truck weighing exactly ten thousand kilograms drives onto the bridge. At the halfway point, a sparrow weighing 30 grams lands on the truck, yet the bridge doesn't collapse.

    How could this be?
    [/b]

    Alright, I'm picturing the bridge. It's a straight as a ruler 4 km long bridge made out of concrete.

    There's a truck standing next to the bridge, it's smiling, it's weighing 10 000 kilos.
    And look now, there's a birdie flying over the bridge....

    Wait I got it, the truck must be running on something! And if it isn't an electric truck then it's some kind of liquid fuel. Diesel for example. As the truck progresses over the bridge fuel is turned into energy and exaustion fumes and the truck gets lighter for every meter it goes. By the time the truck reches the halfway point it will have lost 30 grams or more worth of fuel.

    Aha, me and trusty ol laphroag did it again (or do I have to come after you with a twig once more my Canadian friend) :D
  • Well seeing as how it took you so long to figure this one out, I'm not so sure you would be able to figure out how to hit me with a stick. :wacko: But because I am such a good sport I will let you try to hit me with a stick or take your chances with posting a question. Your choice. ;)
  • I knew you would give in to my threats :P

    Ok, after some thinking (and searching through old notepads) I found this one.
    My math teacher use to fool around with stuf like this all the time to keep us alert.
    It isn't that hard if you remember your algebra.

    Let 'a' and 'b' be two variables that are equal, so that x=y.
    From these two variables, we can show that 2 is equal to 1:


    1 ; x = y Given.
    2 ; x*x = x*y Left-multiply both sides by x
    3 ; x*x-y*y = x*y-y*y Subtract (y*y) from both sides
    4 ; (x-y)*(x+y) = (x-y)*y Factor (x-y) from both sides
    5 ; (x+y) = y Cancel (x-y) from both sides
    6 ; (y+y) = y Replace x with y (given, see line 1)
    7 ; 2y = y Simplify (y+y) to 2y
    8 ; 2 = 1 Answer: 2 is equal to 1

    What is wrong with this reasoning?

    Let me know if this stuff is too boring for you and I'll try to come up with something more interesting.
  • Granted, it's been a long time, but I think step #4 is on the kaibosh. :D
  • Why yes, you are right.
    Would you like to explain what is wrong with the 4:th step or should I ?!

    Oh, I just noticed that an extra error occured in step 4.
    You see, as I was typing this down I used a & b instead of x & y only to find out that b followed by ) = B) . So I had to exchange 'em all and it seems as I missed one b on step 4.
    You're still right about it being wrong, but now you gotta explian why.
    I edited the original post to be flawless (exept for the flaw making it a brain teaser) ;)
  • I got started on it, but I get my laws confused. You 'splain it, Ricky. :D
  • I'll do better then that, I'll hint you 'til you get it
    look at statement 1 and 4!
  • the first term in line 4 (in parentheses) =0, and 0 times anything =0
  • There you go, accually it is the 5:th line (sorry for hinting about the 4:th) were you cancel the (x-y) that is wrong.
    But you are there man.
    Just remember to never ever divide anything by zero cus there's no telling in were you'll end up.

    Come on now WB, go find us a mystery for us.
  • OK, I didn't want to do this, but I'm stuck. I can't think of anything else to do here. This really should start a new thread, but it'll do here.


    Seven men are in an alley. Six men on one side, standing abreast, facing one man with murderous intent. Facing them, at the other end of the alley, is the lone man. He walks towards them, and they walk to meet him. He stops and produces a briefcase. He opens it, shows them the contents, and they turn and walk away. Why?

    This game is best played by the players asking yes/no questions, and using deductive reasoning.

    Fire away, players

    ps. if you know the answer, PM me, and I'll turn over the thread to the first correct response I get, but don't spoil it for those who don't know by blurting out the answer. By the same token, don't blurt out guesses. Please limit inquiries by asking questions with yes or no answers.
  • Ooooh I just love these ones.
    Steve had a few running for months on the last brain teasers as I recall it (I checked the archives if anyone wonders).

    Alright, I start by asking the obvious.
    Do the men know each other from before this meeting?
  • Is there some money in the breifcase!??

    (that definintely qualifies as a 'yes or no' question) :P
  • Manne - yes

    Speedie - no
  • Does the man with the case owe the six men anything?
  • Is the lone man related to the other six in any 'family' sort of way??

    By the way, this is a really good one, and I think it should stay here, but if you have any other ones stashed away in that noggin of yours WB, I say let's open up a new thread for this sort of thing, okey? :D Thanks Buddy!!
  • Well I'm not going to ask any questions.... actually I am... the men all new eachother from the start
    so he shows
    them the case, which has drugs in it and as they were friends
    they thought to themselves they didnt want to break the relationship so they walked away

    (My question is Is that the right answer)!!

    :lol: :P :blink:
  • Originally posted by WreckinBall@Jan 30 2003, 12:19 AM
    don't spoil it for those who don't know by blurting out the answer. By the same token, don't blurt out guesses.

    Manne - yes

    Speedie - no and OK

    Barbed Wire - the above quote is for you, and no
  • Is there actually anything in that briefcase!? :huh:
  • absolutely, yes.
  • Were there firearms in the briefcase

    [I]Sorry about guessing the answer won't happen again
    Also can you open up a thread for this stuff
  • Have this kind of meeting (with the same people taking part) taken place before?
  • Was it a picture?
  • No, No, and No.
  • Was the briefcase empty?
  • Originally posted by Susan B STAFF@Feb 1 2003, 03:52 AM
    Is there actually anything in that briefcase!? :huh:


    WreckinBall: absolutely,yes [/b]

    REX: Come on, wake up! :lol:




    I'm gonna try to solve what on earth this man owes the other men.
    Does the man with the briefcase get to keep what's inside the case after the meeting?
  • Originally posted by manneman+Feb 2 2003, 10:05 AM-->QUOTE(manneman @ Feb 2 2003, 10:05 AM)
    [quote]<!--QuoteBegin-Susan B STAFF</i>
    @Feb 1 2003, 03:52 AM
    Is there actually anything in that briefcase!? :huh:


    WreckinBall: absolutely,yes [/b]

    REX: Come on, wake up! :lol:
    [/b][/quote]
    D'OH!!!

    Was it a piece of paper of any sort?
  • Manne - Yes

    Rex - No
  • Is the content of the case worth more to thr case holder then to the 6 men watching him?
  • Now, I understand that you said that the six men approached the lone man with 'murderous intent'..... or something to that effect.

    Question:
    Will the six men murder the lone man if he does not have in the briefcase what they want/expect to see there? :ph34r:

    Queston #2:

    Does this involve some sort of sport??
    :huh:
  • Speedie: One question at a time, please.

    Manne - No

    Speedie - Yes, and No
  • Are the six men from some official agency or something like that??

    (sorry about having two questions at once, I won't do it again!! :P )
  • Could you burn whats in the case?
  • Is the actual number of men mentioned important to solving this (or does the amount of men have no bearing at all on the situation)?

    :huh:
  • Speedie - No

    Manne - Rephrase, please

    Gideon - No, and yes. I know it's been a long time since I last posted this, but please ask just one yes or no question at a time. :P
  • Is the content of the case organic (paper, flesh, petrol...)?

  • I think what manne was asking is:
    "Is the contents of the case flamable?"

    Now, my question:

    Are the six men 'working' together against this lone man? :unsure:
    (as in, it's a joint cooperative effort against him, not just a coincidence that they all happen to be in the same place at the same time... ya know) :huh:
  • I'm not sure what flamable means but I think that it has something to do with an ability to caught on fire easaly.
    And that is not what i was after (sorry speeds)
    What I was wondering was, if you were to put the content of the case on a normal fire made out of old dry logs of wood, would there then be nothing but coal left in the morning ?
    If the content is made so that it partially will burn up but leave a piece just scorched but still recognizable behind the answer will be NO.
    If the *same as above* not recognizable the answer will be YES.

    Ok!? ;)
  • Ooops, sorry Dubya, my bad for the previous post ;)


    Has the solution got something to do with a form of energy?

    :unsure:
  • Originally posted by manneman@Feb 5 2003, 12:58 AM
    Is the content of the case organic (paper, flesh, petrol...)?

    Manne - to the above question, Yes

    Speedie - Yes

    Gideon - No
  • I have to ask just to be certain.
    Does the man with the case owe the 6 men what's in the case?
    You should never jump to conclusions in matter like this
  • Originally posted by manneman@Feb 6 2003, 01:39 AM
    You should never jump to conclusions in matter like this

    That's the most correct thing posted so far


    As for your guess, can you be more specific? With the way you've used the word owe, the answer could be yes, and it could be no.
  • Originally posted by WreckinBall@Feb 7 2003, 02:33 AM



    As for your guess, can you be more specific? With the way you've used the word [b]owe
    , the answer could be yes, and it could be no.[/b]

    Oh, stop being so d@mned Clinton and just answer the question!! :P

    QUESTION:

    Is there more than one item in the case?
  • Well you confirmed that the sole man owed the 6 men gang something.
    Now the natural thing to do is belive that what he got in his case is an object that will be given to the 6 men. I think that's not the full story.
    My rephraze-iation (? :lol: ?) will be:

    Does the lone man owe the 6 men anything after the meeting ?

    Besides sus, the fact that WB is unable to answer a question is a better clue to the solution of the riddle then if he could answer. ;)
  • Originally posted by manneman@Feb 7 2003, 09:31 AM


    Besides sus, the fact that WB is unable to answer a question is a better clue to the solution of the riddle then if he could answer. ;)

    Well, I still think he needs to put little Willie's page back in his book!! :lol:

    And to think, I'm ALWAYS the one to win CLUE when we play at home, and yet I am sooooooooo lost on this one!!!!!! :blink: :(
  • Speedie - No

    Manne - No
  • Was it that the lone man 'owed' the six men simply a 'look' at what was in the case?? :blink: :huh:
  • Originally posted by WreckinBall@Jan 30 2003, 09:42 AM
    Seven men are in an alley. Six men on one side, standing abreast, facing one man with murderous intent. Facing them, at the other end of the alley, is the lone man. He walks towards them, and they walk to meet him. He stops and produces a briefcase. He opens it, shows them the contents, and they turn and walk away. Why?

    I thought I make a quick resum
  • The six men are with the mafia and the one man has the ear of the don's dead daughter in the case which he stole from the don and is asking ransom for it.
  • [quote]Originally posted by WreckinBall@Jan 30 2003, 03:42 AM
    [b]

    This game is best played by the players asking yes/no questions, and using deductive reasoning.


    ps.
  • Is it a part of a human in the case?
  • Ok, this guy is there with a murderous intent and he "owes" them what's in the case.

    Is what's in the case a type of incendiary device?

  • Manne - your statements are correct, BUT, in the statement referring to the worth of the item in the case, I take that you mean monetary value, and in that sense, the statement is correct.

    Speedie - Yes (a look inside the case is all they want/need)

    GK - No, to your asinine TV/Movie Mafia-story based jump to a conclusion and Yes, to your follow-up question :D (good one)

    Madhtr - No
  • Oh, I see. he he. My question was really not about monetary value since that would have been equal to both partys I figured.
    ;)
  • Would this human part, happen to be a vital organ, such as a Heart?
  • Did the lone man have to kill the owner of the contents of the case in order to get it/them? :blink:
  • Bid - No

    Speedie - No
  • hope noone had the time to read the question I first posted.

    Does the 7 men have a history in serving the military together?
  • Does the contents of the case belong to one of the 'six men'??
  • Manne - Yes

    Speedie - No
  • Did the time in the army involve some sort of unusual incident that brought them closer together, so to say?
    All of you horndogs know this, I am not implying anything but platonic love these 7 men between

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