• Based on a topic idea provided by Theve1tch, i thought it would be interesting to get other member's views on this matter.

    The age of 'consent' varies from country to country, i.e. the legal age at which somebody can legally have 'sex', but here in the UK it is 16.

    The point is that people cannot walk into a shop and buy most pornographic 'literature' until they are 18.

    Does this seem a bit silly? I mean you can have sex at 16, but you can't look at it for another 2 years. Do under 18's have to wear blindfolds when having sex?

    Also with the advent of the internet, youngsters with hormones raging don't even have to go through the 'embarrassment' of walking into a store and buying a mag - all forms of porn are easily accessible with a search engine and a few mouse clicks.

    Are pornography laws completely outdated?

    Also there are different age limits relating to heterosexual sex and homosexual sex - is this fair?


    There's a lot of different issues here (including).

    We all know that things like child porn should be strictly enforced (by this I mean anyone making it or viewing it should be lined up against a wall and executed), but what about
  • Here in Sweden, as everybody knows, we have a very restricted look upon sex, NOT.

    When turning 15 you are allowed to have sex with who ever you want.
    You know STEVE that you are allowed to have sex before that, the law is only there to prevent dirty old men from abusing young girl really.
    If two 13 year olds were to do the bedroom rumba I doubt that any court of law would give a damn.

    As for what age you are allowed to buy porn, I really don't know.
    I have never heard of an age limit, but then that matter takes care of it self since most teens feel it's a bit embarrasing to walk into the supermarket and ask for a copy of Hustler.

    I think that it is good that you can't look at professional porn until a certain age, I don't know about you but my first trembling steps on the road of sex didn't involve much shaved parts and acrobatics.
    :lol:
    It's good to let kids learn what they think about sex before they are learned what they should think.

    The fact that most kids think that anal sex is a natural part of sexual intercours is a good indicator on what pro porn is doing to their minds. It stops inventivness and makes em into copycats, making them feel rather usuless in most areas.

  • I can only agree with u manne...
    The age thing is more for preventing thoose dirty old men from using their thingy on underage girlies. Most kids of today is doing the bedroom rumba before 15, no one really cares anymore, earlier the cooler the guy/girl is.
    As for "buy ur p0rn" thing i really dont know, i think its a 15 year old limit for renting movies but doubt that ppl care.
  • i thought it was more than compulsory to wear blindfolds.
    Not to mention the cuffs, spread bars, mask and assorted rubber goodies....

    I know i dont want ot break the law, so i wear these things just incase somewhere in the world its illeagle not to....

    ;)

    :ph34r:
  • The are countries in Europe in which you can legally consent to sex at 12 - does this mean that the laws in every country should be changed? Ok the law where i live says 17 and i was 17 when.......but the law had nothing to do with how old, just took the right girl :rolleyes:

    the age for buying it here is 18 but by the time i was 14 in school i was walking in to shops and buying what ever they had on the counter, then selling it on for twice the cover price to those who were less confident ;) than me!

    I have to agree with manneman - anal is becoming surprisingly popular but its not really how i would have fancied losing my virginity :o

    yesterday during a drive on the motorway i pulled over at a service station to get something to drink and walked in to the shop - now there was the biggest top shelf i have ever seen in my life (must have been 20 yards long) and there was this old bloke - late 60s - making his selection - and i just had to stop and watch. I had never seen anything like this before and was transfixed. he chose some 40 or 50 year old specialist mag and something one of those barely legal types and walked up to the counter. There was a pretty blonde about 20 years old servicing and the old bloke just sat his mags down and chatted to her in that ooooh hello deary, its a cold un today voice that old folks have and it seems the most normal thing in the world - so why was i dumbstruck to see this old man buying porn?

    I dont think the lower age is a big issue - but why are we made to feel sex when you are older is wrong?
  • That's a pretty good point there Rory.
    I too somehow feel that sex should be reserved for the young and the beutiful, odd huh.
    To accually think that old people can enjoy sex as much as any teenager on springbrake (probably even more since they know what they want) is a bit strange.
    What the h*ll should an old couple do all day long but have sex, you can only drink coffee and watch TV so many hours of the day :lol:
  • Well in the western hemisphere (sp?) the legal age in Canada is 16 but there are too many loop holes with that one like statuatory rape and so forth but your fine after the legal drinking age 18 in Quebec and 19 elsewhere. But then again who follows the law anyway? Only most of us with a brain in our head (no not that one, the other one) and the point about the online pron laws...how will the government know who's who? I mean how does the government know whether the dad was online or little Billy?

    No I don't think that the pron laws are outdated just more strictly enforced on child pron, and beastiality. I don't think that the governments should become stricter (sp?) on 'regular' porn because this is the lifestyle that these 'actors' chose to live. Now I know what most of you are thinking 'What if it was my child?' Well I would have to answer no I would not like one bit for my child to live this lifestyle and I would most likely disown him or her but at the age older thatn 19 years of age there is little I can do to change his or her mind because the law says that they can make there own decisions at that age.

    The point about soft pron well there is a major television station that is based in the city that I live in and this (non-cable) TV station is known to play soft pron at 9pm. Now that for anybody is way too early the kids are still up at that time. I remeber when I was a kid I had to stay up really late on the weekends to watch any type of porn (I had a satellite dish that caught HBO, Cinemax, The Movie Channel, and Showtime) but that was way back in the mid 80's God bless those days. Anyways am I wrong in saying that 9pm is way too early for even soft porn to be on? I mean if they want to play this movie so bad wait even just after midnight to play it. To me that would make more sense, the kids would sleeping and you and the misses could watch and have fun right?
  • That's a pretty good point there Rory.
    I too somehow feel that sex should be reserved for the young and the beutiful, odd huh. [/b]


    Well, I
  • This will come as a shock to most of you I think... I read in MAXIM magazine that the legal age to have sex in Australia is 10. 10 years old! I was too busy playing with G.I. Joe at that age to be thinking of sex.

    I lost my virginity when I was 18, I think I was the oldest one amongst my friends. Would I change it if I knew then what I know now? No.

    Kaver is correct in the consensual age is 16, to buy/rent porn is 18. So to be able to have sex at 16 is fine, but don't watch other people have sex!!!

    I do think that the laws are outdated. But how do you measure what age should be the limit? Some 14 year olds are more mature then some adults that I know.

    Would lowering the age say to kids even younger that it is ok to be having sex because they just lowered the age closer to their age?

    [quote]We all know that things like child porn should be strictly enforced (by this I mean anyone making it or viewing it should be lined up against a wall and executed), but what about
  • In this day and age you can see anything you would like to I say inforce the law and kill the sorry sons of b*#$hes that are putting the child porn out there It is not that hard to find out who is doing it The Fat Cat in DC just need to get off there FAT A$$es and do it Damn! :angry:
  • Originally posted by Rex77@Feb 25 2003, 12:14 PM
    This will come as a shock to most of you I think... I read in MAXIM magazine that the legal age to have sex in Australia is 10.

    That's incorrect Rex,

    The law in fact is over 16 if the person is within 2 years of your age or Over 18 if you are outside that barrier. A lot of younger people over here are unaware that any law exists.

    i.e. 19 year old guy and 16 year old girl is a no no or the other way around for that matter. Yet it still happens.

    The legal age to buy porn is 18 and only 2 states in australia are allowed to sell X rated material.

    I think some laws in society are outdated these days but know like Rory from an early age I was able to buy and redistribute to make money.

    I also agree that nothing is worse than child pornography and paedofilia and that these people deserve any faate that is worse than death
  • Are you sure about that Rex? I know I'm not an Aussie, but seeing how we are Neighbour's and all, I have been over the "Ditch" a couple of time's. Not to mention, have several close friend's that are "Native's" and I can't recall 10yrs old as being their age of consent? I'm pretty sure it's actually 16, as is our's over here in New Zealand <_< . Perhap's one of our Austrailian member's could shed some light on this? <br />
    As for changing the law's? I have to concur with Manneman (& no this has nothing to do with "SPECIAL" birthday privilege's B) .)
    I lost my virginity two week's prior to my 16th (naughty little law-breaker, yes I know!), and am extremely grateful, I never clapped my eye's on a porno until several year's later! I'd of probably run a mile if I had.

    Child porn, make's me sick to my stomach! And don't, won't ever, EVER, ever understand the pure evil behind it!!!
    :angry:

    Oop's, look's like FJ got in before me :D
  • I think having to be 18 to buy magazines is stupid. Not because I just want to go out and get one, but because everyone knows guys are most 'active' in thier early teens. That is when they should be able to get mags, not when they're 18 and have a girlfriend.
  • Oh, Killa. Belive you me.
    All guys arn't most active in their early teens. They are just more easely turned on, wich is an other good point to why kids don't need porn at an early age.
    15 year old boys (can't really answer for the girls) will get a hardon just by looking at a eroticly folded piece of toilet paper, so there is really no need to spoil their expectations and imagination by giving them porn. :lol:
  • One of my friends has his mom pick him up Playboy's when new issues come out :blink: Im not kidding, alothough i wish i was.

    -I think looking at porn or "reading" the magazines are ok. Its your body so you do what you want to do. The news here in America, a while back, said that people in College who have sex and are sexually active have a much stronger immune system. I dont know why but its true. So if the looked down upon word "masturbation" is so bad then why do people do it? Its not wrong because your not cheating on anyone or being unloyal.

    -People are too high strung about looking at porn or masturbating. I think that the age requirement should stick because the young should stay young. Looking at things of that nature should only be allowed to persons mature enough.
  • I think it like so many other things should be based on the maturity and mental stability of the individual. I don't believe there is a single 12 year old out there who is capable of dealing with the consequences and ramifications(no pun intended) of carnal acts. There are undoubtedly many 18 year olds who can't either. Unfortunately there is no way to make that distinction.
  • Originally posted by Fat_Jiffy+Feb 24 2003, 11:55 PM-->QUOTE(Fat_Jiffy @ Feb 24 2003, 11:55 PM)
    [quote] [quote][i]Originally posted by Rex77
    @Feb 25 2003, 12:14 PM
    This will come as a shock to most of you I think... I read in MAXIM magazine that the legal age to have sex in Australia is 10.

    That's incorrect Rex,

    The law in fact is over 16 if the person is within 2 years of your age or Over 18 if you are outside that barrier. A lot of younger people over here are unaware that any law exists.

    [/b][/quote]
    I am very sorry, I was just posting what I read.

    <!--QuoteBegin-JDM[/i]<br />[b] I think it like so many other things should be based on the maturity and mental stability of the individual.
  • Originally posted by GeneStarwind@Feb 25 2003, 08:07 PM
    So if the looked down upon word "masturbation" is so bad then why do people do it? Its not wrong because your not cheating on anyone or being unloyal.

    -People are too high strung about looking at porn or masturbating.

    Ahh this is a point i was thinkiong about the other day (no not like that you dirty people), Is masterbation wrong?
    And as it is a sexual act is it covered by sex laws?

    Senario 1-Two 15 year olds are caught having 'fun' in the bedroom, it goes to court (god knows how in this day and age, but someone thought it would be better then having the double shooting and atteped murder case this week. lol )
    The male is charged with raping the female, the female is charged with raping the male! By law that is what would happen,

    Senario 2- A male is caught wacking one off in his bedroom. Would he get charged for self-rape??? :blink:

    Next thing to think about is, is contraseption! Is it to easy for youngsters to get hold of? Or if there gonna do it anyway, should it be made easier to get hold of?

    I was reading in 'the times' either today or yesterday (worked on both days so cant remember which), but Britain has the highest rate of 'under-age' pregnacies in Europe! The governments responce, throw money at sex education! In 1993 the amount the government spent on sex education for minors was 24 million or something, 1998 45 million, and now in 2003 there going to make it 98million (annual spending i think, didnt read full story, had to go back to my baps.)

    Is money enough? of does something else need to be done? And if yes, what?

    Your opinions please.
  • In my opinion, pornography is a subject to be decided upon by the prevailing opinion of the community. Not only how old consumers must be, but when and where it can be obtained. Due to cultural differences, a standard age doesn't seem a good fit to me.

    As for the actual commission of the physical acts depicted in pornography, the more mature a person is when beginning their sexual awakening, the better off they are going to be. It's been my experience that age and maturity are two things that aren't always related. I began my "career" when I was 14 with a girl of the same age, and she was YEARS ahead. I suppose that she could have taught many "adults" a thing or two, and she seemed perfectly adjusted to the advanced explorations into her body and it's workings that she was undertaking. I don't know if that means we should adhere to archaic laws, but I suppose what I'm driving at is that it generally depends on the individual, and sex between adults and preteens seems wrong

    NAMBLA is wrong, as any child abusers are wrong. An adult taking advantage of a younger person's naivetee(sp?) by exposing them to pornography and changing their mood by giving them drugs or booze, and then exploiting their sexuality is wrong. On the other side of the coin, two 13 year-olds playing "I'll show you mine" and then progressing to slap and tickle seems perfectly natural to me.

    Such are the quandaries of life. It seems no one answer properly fits.
  • My post is a little off topic, but one thing I don't understand is why pornagraphic type media constitutes an R or X classification when many violent movies showing graphic gore only get a M15 rating.

    It seems that the powers that be deem the natural act of sex a little too hot to handle :pump: and have difficulty understanding how to rate such subjects.

    Just a thought

    :helpme:
  • I have never had any urge to buy any sort of junk..but this is my idea.

    As far as I think, and I'm sorry in advance if I sound narrowminded or mean or aggressive, but due to my experiences...boys are being dumb in the first place for buying pictures of women who are showing off their plastic surgury results. I don't care how much it "stimulates" or whatever the heck you call it, but upon looking at some of those pictures, they are gazing and pasting an image into their head of a perfect woman. Yet, the funny thing is, in real life a woman is not a sex object...or shouldn't be at least.

    There is an age limit here in California that says that men cannot buy pornographic videos until they are eighteen. To me, the later they see the better because a few men have some maturity issues and the older they get, the more mature they get..(at least, that's my theory).

    Once again, I apologize if I have seemed to be flaming or ranting, but based on my experiences with "sexually stimulated" boys..I have become very very zealous in my thoughts of it.
  • Contraception is quite easy to get a hold of in Canada. You can walk into any Health Unit and grab a handful of condoms, free. You don't even have to ask for them, you can if you want to but they place some in the washrooms for those who are perhaps a little embarrassed to approach someone for them.

    Money is not enough for the young pregnancies in the world today.

    Kids will have sex, there are no two ways about. More role models for these teens need to start speaking up about teen sex, the risks of STD's and pregnancy. How many young girls think that it is OK to have sex now that Miss Spears has told the world that she is not a virgin? To many of these girls Spears is a icon and really look up to her, they want to be like her and may start having sex now for the plain and simple fact that she has so it must be OK.

    Originally posted by WreckinBall Posted on Aug 10 2003+ 07:16 PM-->QUOTE(WreckinBall Posted on Aug 10 2003 @ 07:16 PM)
    [quote]

    In my opinion, pornography is a subject to be decided upon by the prevailing opinion of the community. Not only how old consumers must be, but when and where it can be obtained. Due to cultural differences, a standard age doesn't seem a good fit to me. [/b]


    I totally agree with this.

    <!--QuoteBegin-RedKennypup2004 Posted on Aug 11 2003</i>@ 12:24 AM
    [b]There is an age limit here in California that says that men cannot buy pornographic videos until they are eighteen. To me, the later they see the better because a few men have some maturity issues and the older they get, the more mature they get..(at least, that's my theory).[/b][/quote]

    Then I doubt that you'll be pleased to read this Kenny but if you stay up 'til 12:00 Wed - Sat you can watch hardcore porn. (albeit a little altered to remove the... lets just call it the yucky part ;) ) All you need to do is order The Movie Network here in Canada. This is the same movie channels that air kids movies like The Powerpuff Girls Movie and Jimmy Neutron: Boy Genius. I am dreading the day that my daughter is old enough to stay up that late but not old enough to watch the adult programming on those channels. But I doubt that she would be interested anyway after seeing it for five minutes, if even that long.

    I don't know why I am so worried... I just realized that our satellite receiver has a channel lock option. :unsure:

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